No thank you, need more reasons for people to get out of high sec, rather than more reasons for them to stay.

and what about the people who arent interested in pve?

It's interesting to see how the feedback in this thread comes from people who don't PvE. And this makes sense, since PvErs are a quiet crowd.

CCP would have been better off just releasing this with a one-liner at the patch notes for Citadel. With this thread, they just got the whole nine yards of angry PvPrs and zero feedback from PvErs...

I think if this proposal came out when the extended skill cue came out, there would be less of an up set.

The skill cue did make people log on just to change the skill cue. Sadly we are human who play out of habit and incentive, we also have short memories. Sadly if Eve is it to remain a successful game needs to motivate people to log on. Due to the nature of player created content this log on and get out of the station will creat content: players to shoot at for these pvp guys. Once people have gotten beyond the barrier to log in and in space, they will have a tendency to stay on longer, to complete another couple of tasks before logging off. (Making more content) I hear this is being compared to WOW a lot , I expect a different effect due to the nature of Eve's Social structure, it will be a massive game changer, either the Trolls/poisonous players log on more often making the place a toilet, or positive content and players log on to populate the would.

I would like 5k personally, Just to want feel that the money I am paying for a subscription is of value, even though I am not logging on because I need to be responsible.

I would say this is a positive move, leveraging social science knowledge to facilitate desired player activity, I just question is the carrot of ;10k needlessly too large for the desired effect.

On a side note since CCP is providing a consumption behaviour mechanic; will there be option for tools to allow responsibly platy?like a set table timer that will let me know my game time I set is over and that my client will be shutting down in 30 mins, 15, 10 ... Also give me a snooze button that gives me a deminishing time to extend play. Though I can log in again to start a new secession.

That's tools not content=ƒÿë

Maybe if this game wasn't boring as shit more people would log in and you wouldn't have to add dumb gimmicks like daily chores.

Except if you look at the trend in the video game industry, you will notice that games are leaning towards the instant gratification vice long term planning and forethought.. THE VERY REASON that the game EvE managed to survive because people that didn't want to play the kiddy games came to play here instead, where your actions really mattered.

Really? Why do you think there has been a decline in the recent years then?

... if they can't figure that one out what the hell am I paying them for.

I mean it is literally their job

I'm strongly against this.

I have no way to log in every day; and as someone can check I've last logged in ages ago. I still pay in hopes to play, as well as to train skills.

And that's more than ok. It's eve; it's the MMO for people who have work or lives they can't just pop out of to go on a gaming spree. Because that kid on his year off, that has 15 hours a day, has absolutely nothing I can't scam, steal or cheat from him. And that's the biggest allure of the game to me.

The fact that I'm equal to everyone else in terms of progress.

You can make the argument that ISK can't be earned offline, or implants give an advantage but both are moot points; the amount of ISK you can farm doesn't compare to what you can acquire from others if you play your cards right. And with that money, implants are no problem.

I made my first account during Cold War; since then a lot has changed, to better or to worse (I even got to meet CCP Tallest at work, <3 those changes to caps) but this, I feel, will push the game to a direction where I feel I'm being put to a disadvantageous position by the mechanics just by the virtue of not being able to game daily. And that's bad. During all of these expansions; I don't think I've played "lol you're losing my sub!1!!one!" card, but this certainly makes it into consideration next time something comes up that could use the monthly subscription.

I'm NOT saying I WILL quit, I'm saying this is just another thing to consider when the scenario comes up. I reckon I'd be a LOT more pissy about it if I weren't in a situation where I can fly anything I can afford / want to lose. And I've no interest in capitals; as such the skill gain being slower doesn't -really- bother me personally, but far as company/game direction does, it's a huge red flag.

And before you say it; yes I'm aware that in my situation remaps and planning a year in advance make me learn a LOT quicker. But I feel that it's the direction the game is going to, rather than a single step, that we should be worried about.

Well, just my two cents and I'm probably wrong. You can now commence to tell me why I'm wrong. :P

Could also demand an IQ test before being allowed to post on the forums to make sure participants are able to think long term instead of CCP style ultra short term thinking. Would help the game a lot as it's obvious that CCP has no idea what they are doing and many here can't see further than their nose.

Just because you want free SP and have time to grind it like a good little robot doesn't mean it's actually beneficial for the game to introduce daily grinds. EVE is a game that deserves long term thinking instead of giving into your short term greed.

Yeah, it is already a thing

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So your argument is that I'm not an eve-online player because I can't log in daily, sometimes weekly, because of work?

Wow, you do realize how many groups, not least the armed force players, that can be applied to? You just made them out to be "Not players". Is that your intention?

If that's the basis, can we maybe go step further? Make it so that only players with 10 accounts linked to their credit card can post. I mean, might as well since surely anyone with less isn't a true player either?

No, YOU missed MY point, namely the fact that this change provides unreasonable rewards for what is literally the most boring activity in EVE (typing your password and waiting to log in).

Also, speak for yourself. I have way more than ten accounts, although only about five are subbed currently.

Lastly and amusingly, the best way to increase your ISK/hr doing this would be to get a faster SSD in your rig, so you don't have to wait so long for the EVE client to load. But that's just a side note.